Anthony Weiner

2011-Jun-10, Friday 11:19 pm
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Huh, I finally 'get' why the Right Wing all classified him as a 'creep', despite him not actually having had any 'actual' sex with these chixxors thus far.

Some of them were *gasp* 21. And even though that's well beyond the legal age of consent, it's still young enough to be his daughter and that's just 'gross'.

Grow the fuck up people. The Internet has zero means of 'actually' verifying an age. And Twitter has zero methods of doing so beyond just allowing someone to manually set their age. This has to stop. This was all just fantasy play, and nothing more. Grow up. It's time to get past this whole Thought Police mentality. And it's time to accept that kids start having 'some' sexual thoughts (to varying degrees) as soon as puberty starts up (or on a varying timeline right around there, based on each individual). But it's not like there's a magical switch that flips on in a young adults mind the millisecond they 'turn 18' that gives them a radical flood of sexual thoughts and drives. It's far more a call to start ACTUALLY MATURE and REASONABLE discussions to be had with kids by their adults and teachers far sooner than 17 or something equally laughable. Sex is directly tied into the drive to survive and that is the strongest instinct we have, and no amount of the Church's interference and pushing us into some Puritanical lifestyle that leaves no one sexually satisfied will remove that instinct.

Grow up.

on 2011-Jun-11, Saturday 08:42 am (UTC)

on 2011-Jun-11, Saturday 08:56 am (UTC)
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Well, it's nice that you tied it back to Scouting yet again, but my deeper concern runs toward something else. Something much less savory I heard some vague rumblings of on MSNBC a few months ago.

There are some in the psych/"Concerned Moms" communities that want to push back age of consent even further than it is. Because, according to them, the brain just isn't biologically capable of handling this stuff and that's 'proven'.

Um, hello? I'm pretty sure that all those centuries of civilization where kids were getting married and throwing out more kids at ages of 13, 14, 15 pretty much proved that society can and does function pretty damn well. Sure they'll make mistakes. But that's what the oft-cited family unit is for. Mom and Dad, on both sides, did everything they could to prepare the kids, and then gave their wisdom when asked to help their kids out. The more we coddle, the more we restrict normal growth and development. The more we 'nurture' to death, the more we remove the actual development of ethics, morals and uprightness. Removing the child's natural drive to become an adult as soon as the hormones kick in is what has been rapidly degrading the family unit. Rebellion becomes stronger, harder, faster because they feel hemmed in, and caged (not in the good way) and lash out harder and stronger.

Personal Feelings: The last couple of massive bubbles and economic collapses in this country (last 11 years or so) are directly a result of this crap. Being too afraid of being 'mean' to a kid to actually set boundaries and discipline and structure means that they will have a MUCH harder time of understanding such things. And will inevitably lead to an increase of the greed-driven politics and business mindedness that fueled those problems we've had.

on 2011-Jun-11, Saturday 09:16 am (UTC)
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Treating people like children (or 'keeping them innocent') longer and longer and coddling them in turn is due to the rise of the self-esteem movement, which places a premium on not hurting people's feelings above all else: the precious snowflake syndrome.

It also dovetails nicely with the sense of entitlement to the impossible state of constant happiness. All of course without any mention of obligations to others...which ended in the economic problems you note.

Add to that our Victorian/Puritan heritage against sex, fearmongering media, and radical feminism's distrust of male sexuality and culture of victimhood...and you have the perfect storm for the criminalization of victimless sex.

If those fringe 'concerned women' get their way, I would likely end up facilitating and harboring the new 'fugitives' who happened to have sex with 18 year olds, including aiding their escape from arrest and prosecution. Consider it a better form of civil disobedience.

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